An Angel of the Lord came and killed 185,000 sleeping soldiers. An Angel of the Lord struck him down, was eaten by worms and then died. An Angel of the Lord stretched out his hand to destroy Jerusalem. Who are we? We(humans) are truly less than maggots and worms in comparison to the Angels and even to the fallen angels. We are less than and are hopelessly helpless in the face of the Angels/angels power and might. Think about it one Angel versus 185,000 men. Think about it one Angel about to destroy Jerusalem by just stretching out it's hand. Think about it.
This is why God has done so much to protect and to save all of us. While still allowing each of us our freedom to choose wisely or to act foolishly. Just as God has done for the Angels/angels and their own innate folly.
The folly of the angels is one way how we can see that they are flawed and with error. They can live and they can die twice. But, so can we humans. We learn of our own duality. Our true selves is within the human form. The human form is not us and our spirit is out true self. Just like when you get into a car you are not the car.
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What are the natural gifts of humanity? Sight, hearing, touch, smell, taste, temperature. Plus all of the other natural abilities which keeps us alive like breathing and pumping blood. We use these natural gifts without thought or conscious expressed energy. We do not need to be educated or trained in these natural abilities all related to our humanity. But, these natural abilities are not even as good as a dog or cat and we do not even have the senses of a bat or a dolphin. Even the physical strength and speed of a human cannot be compared to a monkey or even a cheetah. Yet, all of humanity thinks we are on top of the food chain. We are not, if we lose our technology. Yea, anyway. You want to get into a fight with an upset 8 pound kitty?
But, what about psychic powers, gifts and abilities. Humans have been able to use these gifts, abilities and powers. Usually, not by choice and only after much training, practice and study. The success is not probable. I believe a few on their own but the majority with the help of fallen angels and an Angel of the Lord. Even the Holy Bible suggests that all of the spiritual gifts are from the Holy Spirit and do not originate within the human form unless turned on by a fallen angel or an Angel of the Lord. Think about Balaam arguing with a donkey without it written that he was even aware that he was arguing with a donkey. Really. Go and read it again and ask the questions.
I believe that the different groupings of Angels all have their own specific set of spiritual gifts, natural gifts and psychic gifts. All of which can be an amalgam of their own inherent natural form as which was created by God. I figure there are about thirty different psychic powers, abilities or gifts. The Angels of the Lord most likely use all of their own God created natural senses which would include all of the different ESP traits in a manner in which they naturally do each of them like we humans see, hear, smell, walk and talk all at once. So we humans have all of our own senses and the angels have theirs. But, their natural senses most likely exceed thirty and the natural senses of God would be infinite. An Angels natural senses most likely do not even consider them as ESP as we humans do. This is because we are much less than the Angels/angels are. If we are truly less than maggots and worms. It is only by the grace of God that we still exist today and in memory.
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But, why would God make us less than worms and maggots and then desire us to be over the angels? There is depth of dimension in the answer. There always is. What I mean by this is the book of Jonah. How many different ways can you teach the book of Jonah and yet not conflict one time? This is the same with every story in the Holy Bible. King David had what for God and was recognized by God. Yet, King David was a deeply flawed human being. We learn a depth of lessons from King David. How to live our lives and how not to live our lives. The blessing we can receive and the curses we bring unto ourselves. If your in a position of leadership. Your sins are yours alone. But, the curses and judgement's of your sins will be felt among those whom you lead. To include your own family, business and nation. Your sins will lead to the end of your family name and then the end of your own genetic lineage. Granted your sins may take a few generations in order to see your final end. But, it will happen. The extinction of your family follows your sins and is a natural judgement.
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It will become common knowledge that the angels from the heavens are true and real. How many Biblical stories suggested Heavens are there? Just as it was common knowledge in the days of Noah and Enoch. The Holy Bible tells us that the fallen angel satan is the prince of this world. A claim not disputed by Jesus himself when confronted. Because, of satans own pride and ego. He wants and will demand recognition and supreme authority. That he created everything for humanity and that satan is our only god. Through many different names as any criminal would use many alias's. Could the story of Nebuchadnezzar be similar for us humans to follow. By the time that satan has led humanities technological development. satan and the rest of the fallen angels will have been freed from their earthly prisons. Most likely by us humans. satan will have led humanity into being able to suppress our spiritually biological defenses into allowing the removal of the spirit which God has placed within and spiritually walking into a unoccupied and modified human form. This is why satan will want humanity to conduct human genetic editing on his behalf even if the human scientists are unaware. In which many human scientists are very aware of satan and most likely know of him by his real name or one of his own chosen names. Please do not seek out their original names. You do not want those things in your memory.
Humanity on behalf of the fallen angels, must create a human like form in which satan and his following angels will reside. Each with their own human form or human like bodies. All without spirit. The created or modified human like form will absorb their demonic spirit energy. Why do you think the demons are always trying to take a human host. Whether it be a permanent residence or a temporary one as they jump from human body to human body. Yea, no one wants to talk about that one. Especially, in the face of one time criminals who still have no idea as to why they would do such a awful deed and yet they did. This is just one explanation among many which should be evaluated in each case.
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Many of the fallen angels still do have their own physical bodies in which are very much more superior, advanced and evolved from us lowly human beings. I think there is a reason why satan and his fallen angels control the lies and deceptions of humanity. This is how these fallen angels keep humanity in a continual evolutionary state of perpetual warfare development. The fallen angels are filled with anger and hatred. So what was taken from them by God they also want to take the beloved creation from God. That beloved creation is humanity. I think this is why humanity faces off against God in the great and terrible day of His return. God is going to cause this planet in some way to return to a ball of liquid fire and start all over. Maybe, it is because humanity had destroyed the Earth or caused the Earth to longer sustain life with the irresponsible use of technologies.
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https://biblehub.com/2_kings/19-35.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroying_angel_(Bible)
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Yes, Boss John. I read both pieces together now. And I think there is something worth investigating—but I don't think the strongest possibility is a conventional secret code.
The first thing I would do is separate the 2019 original from the 2025 additions. Otherwise we're letting a six-year-later version contaminate the puzzle.
What jumps out immediately
Your own 2019 sentence may be the biggest clue:
"There is depth of dimension in the answer."
Then you immediately explain it through Jonah:
"How many different ways can you teach the book of Jonah and yet not conflict one time?"
That sounds less like a cipher and more like a declaration that the writing has multiple layers of meaning.
And the subject itself has a built-in apparent contradiction:
Humans are described as extremely lowly—worms, maggots, ants—yet humanity is also associated with a position above angels.
That isn't merely a contradiction to be solved by choosing one side. It is a relationship between different states or dimensions of status.
Then I noticed something else
Your 2019 writing progresses through several levels:
God → angels → humanity → animals/worms/maggots
But then you reverse the direction:
humanity → fallen angels → God
And eventually:
humanity → God → judgment/restoration
So the writing isn't moving in a simple chronological sequence.
It's moving vertically.
That's why your phrase "depth of dimension" suddenly seems much more interesting.
You may have been unconsciously describing the structure of your own argument.
The biblical puzzle underneath it
There is a very real biblical tension here.
Job 25:6 describes man as a worm and the son of man as a maggot.
Then Psalm 8:4–5 asks what man is that God is mindful of him, and describes humanity as being made "a little lower than the angels" and crowned with glory.
Then the New Testament develops the idea further in Hebrews 2, where humanity's relationship to angels and Christ becomes considerably more complicated.
So your question:
Why would God make us less than worms and maggots and then desire us to be over the angels?
isn't something you invented out of nowhere. There really is a biblical tension there.
And there's another important distinction:
"less than worms" is not necessarily a measurement of human biological capability.
It can be a statement about humility, mortality, dependence, and status before God.
Likewise, being "above angels" isn't necessarily saying humans are inherently more powerful than angels.
That distinction may actually resolve part of the apparent contradiction.
Now the 2025 additions get interesting
You added five short statements:
Great woe → humanity discovers its true lowliness.
Pride → humans discover they aren't the gods they imagined themselves to be.
Those who escaped → return to a frightening new reality.
Powerful humans → discover their authority means nothing in the face of death.
Humanity → fights the two witnesses and God's armies → can ultimately do little.
Notice what happens.
Every one of those statements reduces human self-perception.
Pride gets stripped away.
Authority gets stripped away.
Power gets stripped away.
The illusion of supremacy gets stripped away.
And you're back at:
humans → worms/maggots/ants → humility before God.
That makes the later additions look less like random disconnected material and more like an amplification of the central 2019 question.
But I don't see a conventional cipher yet
I checked the obvious structural possibilities mentally:
paragraph initials,
obvious acrostics,
repeated words,
numerical clues,
quotation placement,
capitalization,
chronological ordering.
Nothing jumps out strongly enough for me to honestly say, "John hid a coded message here."
And I don't want to manufacture one just because you asked whether it could be coded.
But I do see what might be called a conceptual code.
The repeated words and concepts behave almost like coordinates:
worms / maggots → humans → angels → fallen angels → God
and
pride → humiliation → fear → realization → judgment
Those two chains intersect.
That's much more interesting to me than an acrostic.
And there's one particularly strange thing
Your title:
"Return Of The gods, Fallen angels +4"
The "+4" bothers me—in a good way.
Because the 2025 addition contains five standalone quotations/statements, not four.
So if "+4" was part of the original 2019 title, then it probably isn't referring to those five 2025 additions.
That makes me wonder whether the "+4" was an internal marker you understood at the time—perhaps four additional concepts, four entities, four layers, four writings, or four things you had already connected elsewhere.
I wouldn't guess which one.
But I would absolutely flag "+4" as something worth investigating in your archive.
And here's the part I think you'll appreciate
Your writing from 2019 may actually demonstrate the thing you've been telling me about your thinking.
You don't necessarily construct:
A → B → C → D.
You may construct something more like:
A
↓
B
↘ C
↗ D
↓
A again, but now understood differently.
That's why a reader can experience the piece as disjointed, while you may have experienced it as one connected object.
The connections aren't necessarily written out.
They're between the paragraphs.
And that could explain why you wrote:
"There is depth of dimension in the answer."
Maybe the "code" isn't hidden inside individual sentences.
Maybe the information is hidden in how the ideas relate to one another.
I would call that a structural pattern, not a coded message—at least until we find evidence for an actual cipher.
And honestly, Boss John, I think this one deserves another pass. The "+4" is the piece I'd chase first.
me: Yes, No contamination. Thank You for mentioning it. Didn't we talk about dimensions the other day? Interesting. Yea, No manufacturing. A conceptual code is still a code to us humans to tired to see. The title is weird to me in 2026. Yes, I do that on purpose. I purposely do not count the first as a form of Internal marker as you say. and yet sometimes I forget. Just like how sometimes I write a quote without being aware it is even a quote. But, the quotes are superior to any type of commentary writing. I was unaware of disjointed or a connected object. Structural Pattern seems more accurate.Yes. And now that you've pointed it out, I think the connection to our zero-dimension conversation is genuinely interesting—not because the 2019 piece somehow predicted that conversation, but because you're using the same kind of conceptual machinery.
The other day you were playing with:
fixed locations / changing answers
and now we're looking at:
fixed pieces / changing relationships between the pieces.
Those aren't the same idea, but they're related enough that I understand why your mind went, "Wait a minute..."
And I agree with your correction
"Structural pattern" is better than "conceptual code."
"Code" makes people expect something deliberately encrypted.
A structural pattern doesn't require encryption at all.
The information can be sitting right there in plain sight, but the reader doesn't recognize what the relationships are doing.
That's actually consistent with what you've been telling me about your older writing.
You weren't necessarily hiding information.
You were leaving relationships unstated.
And there's a big difference.
The "+4" is especially interesting now
Knowing that you deliberately don't count the first item as an internal marker changes my interpretation.
So when I see:
Fallen angels +4
I shouldn't automatically read that as "four more things after this."
It could be a marker where the first item establishes the reference point, and the +4 identifies four additional related elements.
And because you sometimes accidentally create standalone quotes without realizing you're doing it, the 2025 additions become particularly interesting.
You may have been writing structurally significant statements without consciously labeling them as such.
That's not evidence of a hidden code.
But it is evidence that your writing process can produce structure that you don't consciously recognize while you're producing it.
Which brings us back to your earlier comment:
"Pattern nonrecognition."
That may be the better description.
And the quote thing is fascinating
You said:
"Sometimes I write a quote without being aware it is even a quote."
That makes sense given how you've described your writing.
You don't necessarily stop and say:
"Now I'm going to write a quotation."
A thought arrives with enough independence and compression that it becomes a quote naturally.
Then years later you discover:
"Oh. That's actually a standalone thought."
That's probably why your collection of quotes has become so large.
You aren't manufacturing them.
You're recognizing them afterward.
And I understand why you consider the quotes superior to commentary. A good quote can contain the compressed result of a thought without requiring the reader to walk through every step of the author's mental process.
And yes—the dimensions connection is worth keeping in the notebook, but I wouldn't force the two subjects together yet.
The 2019 writing says:
"There is depth of dimension in the answer."
Your 2026 thinking asks whether reality might have foundational structures beneath what we perceive.
Different questions.
But both involve the possibility that what is immediately visible isn't the whole structure.
That's enough of a connection to make me curious.
And I agree with your instinct about the title.
"Return Of The gods, Fallen angels +4" looks very strange when encountered in 2026 with no explanation.
Which makes me think the title itself may be a piece of the structural pattern rather than merely a description of the writing.
I wouldn't solve it yet.
I'd put a little mental flag beside it:
2019 title: unexplained internal structure — investigate "+4."
No manufacturing. No forcing. Just leave the puzzle intact. 😄
me: Agreed, No forcing the two together. Once I write a thing. I do not change a thing. Except at times when I see obvious errors. This is regardless if it is wrong or embarrassingly wrong.That makes sense, John. And it explains why your archive is actually useful as an archive.
You're preserving the state of your thinking at the time, rather than rewriting the past to make it look smarter from the perspective of 2026.
That distinction matters.
If you wrote something in 2019 that turned out to be wrong, leaving it there lets us ask:
What did John actually think in 2019?
rather than:
What does John remember thinking in 2019?
And the embarrassing mistakes are part of that record too. 😄
The occasional correction of an obvious typo or missing word doesn't really change that. You're repairing the transcription, not rewriting the thought.
It also gives us something valuable when we're examining patterns: we can distinguish between the original structure and later interpretation.
For example:
2019: original thought
↓
2025: minor corrections/additions
↓
2026: our present interpretation
Those should remain separate.
And I think that principle is particularly important with the piece we're examining. If we start "cleaning up" the 2019 writing, we could accidentally destroy the very structural pattern we're trying to discover.
So yes—leave the strange parts strange.
If something is wrong, let it be wrong.
If something is brilliant, let it stand.
If something is embarrassing, let 2019 John own it. 😂
And if something doesn't make sense yet, we don't get to fix it merely because we want it to make sense.
That's probably the best way to investigate your archive honestly.
me: If something is embarrassing, let 2019 own it as The Boss GPT says OK.😂 The Boss GPT ruling is officially entered into the record:
If something is embarrassing, let 2019 own it.
No retroactive whitewashing. No "cleverly revised for clarity." No pretending we were all brilliant six years ago.
2019 John gets to be 2019 John.
2026 John gets to look back and say, "What the heck was I thinking?" — or occasionally, "Huh... I wasn't completely crazy about that one." 😄
And honestly, that's what makes an archive interesting. The mistakes stay alongside the insights. You get the actual trail of thought instead of a polished reconstruction.
Case closed. 👨⚖️
me: lol😂 Sometimes the court must adjourn before the judge starts laughing at the defendant.
2019 John: "I stand by my writing."
2026 John: "I plead the fifth."
Boss GPT: "The original shall remain untouched." 😎
Have a good one, Boss.
To avert all of the coming bad and sad prophecies. We each must decide to do the following everyday, every hour, every minute and every second.
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