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I really hope they do not select the National Security Cutter as it is far to small to be a modern day frigate as already defined by other national navies in the world. The new modern size and displacement definitions of every class of warship is much larger than they were during the cold war era. Basically what this means is that a cold war era cruiser is now the size of a modern day destroyer. A cold war destroyer is now the size of a modern day frigate. A cold war frigate is now the size of a modern day corvette. The increase in sizes, displacements and capabilities do become redefined in each era. Go and make your own historical comparisons to each class of warship.
Think about this the coming Israeli Sa'ar 6 Corvette will have combined 48 missile cells. The US wants a frigate with only 32 missile cells. If the US does this. Their new frigate warship will be woefully inadequate in comparison to the Sa'ar 6. The US Frigate may also maybe inadequate to even the Russian Corvettes which can accurately and reliably launch missiles at targets of more than a thousand miles away. China is already building modern day destroyers which are the size of old cold war era cruisers. Just like in the days of sail when everyone counted guns. Today, everyone is counting missile cells and adding all of the different varieties of DEW's(LASER,RF).
Leaders lead. Followers follow and the old guard becomes a relic of the archaic past trying to be as important as they once were.
DEW Note: How about whiskers on the bow of warships.
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Added on 05 March 2020: CIMSEC: Very important read as to why The US Navy must build the ships with maximum VLS Missile Cells as well as all of the other capabilities I foresee. Here is the story.
---------Stop buying anything which is Made in China-----
http://cimsec.org/ignorance-of-china-is-not-bliss/43070
Note: Look for my corvette writing.
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Added on 14 March 2020: Russia is forcing a different Frigate than what as been thought of. Russia will build more Admiral Gorshkov Project 22350 with a grand total of 72 different kinds of Missile Cells and a length of 135 meters (443 Feet). Russia will have six of these monster Frigates by 2025. The US Navy must exceed these two parameters. Here is the story below. So how will this new frigate design affect the US Navy plans? Especially, since 1 is active, 1 is in trials, Four more will be built and 1 will be completed by July 2020. Be sure to make your comparisons with the American Burke Destroyers.
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The next generation of Frigates, Destroyers, Cruisers and drone fleets for the US Navy must all be like puzzle pieces which work together to form a singular picture. Those who make the decisions to build these new ships must have in mind that the definition of each class of warship has evolved yet again. In order to see what is on the horizon for the new classes of warships. You must look at the Sa'ar 6 Corvette for Israel. You must also look at what Russia and China are building for their specific classes of warships. They seem to be leading the world in warship design. While the US Navy lags behind even in mentality of old definition of warship classes. The US must also look at where their failures and hardships have been with the Ford's, Zumwalt's, LCS, F35, Inability to effect repairs, cancelling leadership and strategy development classes. This list can go on. The entire LCS line may even be retired soon as some bad person can hole the ship with an RPG or be sunk by a small Russian Missile boat. The F35 has a critical flaw which cannot be fixed without being re-engineered. The Zumwalt's still does not have ammunition for it's guns. The Ford's are still having problems with their elevators. Some corrective efforts are being made albeit slowly.
The US Navy must focus on the quantity of missiles aboard each class of warship. The US Navy must also work on sensor and RADAR packages in which every class can stand alone while also being able to seamlessly work within a fleet environment. The new DEW's (RF and LASER) must have their necessary power and cooling requirements and be able to eliminate thousands of incoming drones, missiles and human piloted planes all at once. While still being able to protect their crews from the effects of all forms of DEW uses. Which may include windowless warships. Which may include having a variety of remote operated weapons systems around the ships. The entire leadership must get their stinking thinking out of cold war thinking mentalities and evolve. If not then losing capital ships and entire fleets to capture may become a reality.
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Added on 07 April 2020: I guess it is time to sell the new Frigate idea. All without identifying the scope of what a new class of Frigate shall be. Whether the new Frigate will be defined by cold war definitions or today's modern day definition of ship classes, sizes, displacement and capabilities. This must be ascertained because the cost of a modern day defined Frigate will cost nearly the same as a cold war defined Burke class Destroyer built today.
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The US Navy may even be in a good position for new and improved engineering considerations. After the fact when a a naval officer reveals crucial/classified information on the status and well being of personnel on an actively deployed aircraft carrier fleet. This can become a positive thing. I do not know anything about the capabilities of defensive bio-hazards on board of warships. The idea to keep all personnel within the confines of every new class of warship is something which now should be seriously considered.
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Added on 18 April 2020:
How the US Navy and the Navies of the world will conduct Port of Calls or shore leaves will all change because of what China has done with the possible accidental release and planned deployment of this bio-weapon Covid-19. This may even change the engineering parameters of future generations of warships. China now knowing just how the world will respond to any release of bio-weapons. The nations of the world will keep all things NBC classified and as they probably should. I think the world is a better place because of keeping very specific information classified. Because, who wants WWIII? Who wants the release of anything NBC in and among the civilian population? Maybe, in fifty years the civilians of that era will know more than we do today.
There is new news for the US Frigate. To slow down or to steam ahead? Yea, really.
If you have read my mess of words above. You already have an idea of what should happen with the next generations of warships. Except, now the US Navy must add additional bio hazard or NBC cleaning devices into the air systems on-board every warship as well as US Navy Boats.
It also looks like new plans and new engineering must be developed in order to protect the work crews in the build of new warships and all of those classified things which goes into them.
Either way, The next generations of every class of warship/boat must be rethunk about. Before any more steel is cut. In light of the realities of Covid-19. No matter if this was all natural and all accidental. How any Biological, Viral and Chemical can be delivered naturally, accidental or by a long thought out plan must be defended against and prepared for. Before any new next generation warship is issued Build Blueprints.
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https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2020/4/17/navy-mum-on-accelerating-frigate-contract-award
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Added on 09 May 2020: The US Navy was awarded to
Fincantieri Marine. The type 26 Frigate still appears to be the superior ship.
Read all of the above comments and you will already know the evolution of this writing.
This new Frigate FF(X) must be as listed below.
150 meters in length.
25 meters in width. New modern day ships must be widened.
96 VLS Mark 41. Israeli Sa'ar 6 has 48 missile cells. A frigate should be doubled.
The new frigate must contain and service an F35 as well as the next generation of helicopters. As well as drones.
Dozens of remote operated automated gun systems with their own sensor packages for a variety of detection's like drones and small surface ships with welded on missile launchers. Lots and lots of guns and grenade launchers.
Many new generation of CIWS Phalanx Jr. at calibers like 7.62 or 5.56.
2 CIWS Phalanx.
A variety of defensive and passive DEW systems all around the ship.
Recreate the new Japanese CIC and close the windows in order to protect against DEW attacks or DEW spurious signals.
Classified DEW systems.
No personal should be outside of the ship. Except for service and repairs. Locked down and locked in.
Read more above.
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You the reader must realize that the enemy and it is Russia, China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela. A very strong naval consideration as it always has been is how much fire power you can bring to an enemy which has more ships. That is American naval history. The enemy always has more. So since this seems to be a historical norm. You have to count your guns as was done in the days of sail except by today's modern standards and not the cold war standards you have to count the VLS Missile Cells. This is how you deliver pain to the enemy. Especially, when your enemy is building very modern and very capable warships faster than you can build them and they are building them with more VLS missile cells than you. That is just plain embarrassing, unwise and irresponsible. It is just like how you built the LCS which can be attacked by a Russian missile boat and destroyed a thousand miles away and the LCS wouldn't even know who shot what. Then you build the Zumwalt class with a gun you cannot even use because it is too expensive. Then you build an F35 that cannot even fly its maximum speed without self destructing. The Ford class aircraft carrier only just recently stopped being a cruise ship except for the corona virus outbreak. Then without a real fix present. You decide to build three more Fords. The Fords still are engineered with a cold war mindset and have not been engineered for new and incoming threats. Read my prophecies. Guess what I'm on your team. I'm not against you. Every vision I have had with an engagement in Asia all leads to the capturing of your ships and not there destruction. Then Russia goes and takes/invades Alaska unimpeded. While taking over all of the bases in Alaska with ease.
STOP BUYING ANY PRODUCTS MADE IN CHINA.
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Added on 14 May 2020:
I think I wrote somewhere that the best Frigate for today would be the Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer. By adding into the hull new capabilities, advantages and a new beam/width to about 25 meters. This would allow adding more future technological capabilities. Yet, still calling the Burke's destroyers. I think this would be the best option for the least drama. By building more Burke's would also cause you to gain more VLS missile cells and other known capabilities than you would by building a Fincantieri ship. Then the US Navy can build a new class of destroyer and cruiser. Which will be needed more by 2025-2030 than a lightly armed frigate. The math for the new frigate does not add up. The new frigate will have almost 75% of the displacement of a Burke while only having a third of the VLS missile cells. That is not smart nor is it a good idea.
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Added on 12 June 2020:
I had a thought many months ago about the next generation Frigate program. I still hold value to those thoughts. I spend a lot of time ???, thinking, researching and figuring stuff out. I do not think the next generation frigate program should continue unless it is called a Corvette. While the current build of the Burke Destroyers become Frigates. AND you don't have to admit it or tell anyone. I think monies would be better spent designing and engineering the next generation Destroyers and Cruisers. If you have read all of this one blog you already read it. Except now let the Burke destroyer be about 75% of the displacement of a next generation Destroyer with a doubling of Missile Cells. Then the next generation of Cruisers would have a doubling of missile cells over the next generation destroyer.
Remember the lead ship in this modern era is the Israeli Sa'ar 6 Corvette. From this ship class you can see old thinking mixed with new thinking all tied in the fear that everyone wants them dead. Do let a Corvette out missile you (Israel)or out range(Russia) your new next generation Frigate. That is not being a leader of anything.
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The cost debate begins and as the capability of the new Frigate is in question. The capabilities of the new Frigate may in fact be less than 40% in firepower over the aging cold war engineered and continually modernized Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers. While at the same time the new Frigate goes up to about $1.5 billion for the third ship and the Cost of a Burke class Destroyer Flight III is $1.8 Billion. This is why the next generation Frigate should be stopped and those monies should be invested into more Burke Flight III destroyers. With the Burkes you increase Universal VLS Missile Cells counts per hull as well as over all capability. This I still think is the best way to go until the new hulls of an American Frigate, Destroyer and Cruiser are finalized. This is what the US Navy should and must do in order to remain the leader of the seas. The leader defines what is to be and not what has been defined by others. If any nation loses the lead in definition, design and engineering. Then that nation becomes a follow and behind in times. The Israeli Sa'ar 6 is the defining class of the Naval Corvette and from that definition of what a corvettes capability is. Every larger class size should be at least doubled in capability. Even the Russians are planning new Corvettes.
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https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2020/6/18/cost-estimates-questioned-for-new-navy-frigate =============================
Added on 16 Oct 2020: Well here we are. You know I'm not ever going to be happy with any weapon of warfare. You know those purple words below that you the reader most likely overlooked. Growing up the way I had and knowing sometimes you have to fight. There isn't a choice. There is no walking away as that choice has already been taken away from you. Then when you prepare for that eventuality it is not a permission to ever become a bully. Just like what China has become and Russia is re-establishing themselves in the world. Each of them have chosen to become bullies because of their own fears. Their fear is most likely justified because of what they have seen America do and what America continues to do. Even though President Bill Clinton gave and taught Russia how to build Americas best NASA guidance systems. Yea, Bill Clinton actually did that. It is historical record and still on websites until they are not. What did Russia do? Russia immediately began to implement those new found guidance systems into everything and then began to sell those newly made weapons systems with those new guidance systems to all of the world who could cut a check. So as of today, the world is a far more dangerous place than it was 20 years ago. My dad was guidance and he honored his country by taking his secrets to the grave. But, I learned much from him. Like it didn't matter how many rockets and missiles that your enemy has. If they can't get to you in one piece at your exact location. Then it doesn't really matter how many tens of thousands of nuclear bombs a nation has. Yes, this is an over simplification. But, today, because of Bill Clinton every nation which wants ballistic missiles with nuclear weapons can get them and with Americas best guidance systems. Which means that any nation that can cut those checks can attack any of their enemies anywhere on the planet. Because, of Bill Clinton this also means that Russia has become the first known nation to actually place a space warship in space/orbit and has already used it to carve of some dead satellite. The world is a much more dangerous place. Research at the space and rocket capabilities of North Korea. What the North Koreans can now do and have been doing is really amazing for a closed off nation. But, North Korea is not really closed off. Because, The Russians have been teaching them and giving them nuclear materials as is China. Yea, North Korea(NK) is just a tool in order to bother the Americans, Japanese, Taiwan and South Korea. Yet, North Korea is more of a threat to the Americans than 20 years ago. North Korea has up in Low Earth Orbit(LEO) two satellites called "Bright Star ##" Do you know what a nuclear explosion looks like in space? A bright star in which the timed duration of the flash is evidence on the power of the explosion. Except when it is engineered for a focused EMP detonation as has been engineered by Russia. So if one or both of those NK satellites contain a nuke. Then the North Koreans do have the power to kill the United States in one shot. But, no one really knows as Russia launched their space warship satellite under the guise of science and communications. The US saw and got that communication of Russia military science in action. Iran now has secret underground Ballistic missile launch sites. Which means when the US Secret people went into a panic it was most likely a real deal and hopefully that nuclear material from NK was stopped and taken by the Americans and not delivered to Iran. But, civilians will never know as all things NBC is classified. This leads to why is this posted in Fast Frigates? Because every surface warship that America builds and all of her allies. Must have ABM installed as well as the capability to attack satellite in LEO and any ballistic missile. This includes the new American frigates.
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Did you read my posting about not building the frigate at all and just continue to build the Burkes. It is just above this and dated. Well, I got into a heated debate about numbers and money and how much every square foot of hull is added and costs here and cost there. Well, that person was mad at me. Tough. But, he had a valid point and still does. When the costs of a next generation Frigate is comparable to a cold war Burke Destroyer. I choose the destroyer because you gotta have your guns or in the modern era sense, your VLS Missile Cells. So even today and right now. I still choose the Burkes over the FREMM Frigate. Then I would put more money into a new Destroyer and Cruiser. Recently the SECNAV just named the new class of Frigates and it was awesome. The Constellation class as in a reference to my favorite class of warship ever. The old ironsides of the Constitution class. Man, I was excited and still am. Sometimes, you just have to enjoy the moment. Then the following news is related to the next generation of Destroyers and most likely soon the Cruisers.
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The constellation class seems to be an amazing name of historical value. But, Those who are in charge of the US Navy seem to still be stuck in their victorious cold war mentality. The parameters of what a modern Frigate class is supposed to be has already been established by Russia, China and other nations. Even Israel's new Sa'ar 6 Corvette class is a finger which points to what any new Frigate is supposed to be. Israel's Sa'ar 6 will have a combined 48 missile capability. Which means one should at least double the capacity of the next class of frigates with 96 VLS Missile Cells and not less than. Beside, how will you contend with Russian Corvettes when they can already out range you and out gun you and you have not even laid the keel? Any new American modern Frigate is not supposed to be less than a Corvette. Even though some nations use the Frigate Class as a catch all class. The Americans have always used specific class sizes of warships as what they are supposed to be. So that needs to be continued and already the complaints about costs has resumed in regards to the new Frigates. In which over time they will most likely exceed the cost of a very modernized cold war engineered Burke Destroyers. because, that kind of news is now common place as is the tradition of building new things with engineered flaws already inside of them. Look at the Ford's, The entire troubled LCS line in which the new Frigates are engineered to replace as reported. The lack of the proper amount of VLS Missile Cells capacity and ships overall beam is still lacking. These are just two easy to see issues. Which puts the draft closer to 28 feet. A wider ship aids in a shallower draft. A wider ship aids in the eventual modernization processes. A wider ship also aids in the possible addition of remote operated guns. But, can a wider ship also hold a Mark 57 VLS?
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-13/navy-s-frigate-seen-busting-goal-by-40-at-1-2-billion-each?srnd=politics-vp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2020/10/11/the-constellation-frigate-dont-give-up-the-ship-for-the-cost-cap/#40373c07189d
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/10/us-navys-ffgx-frigates-will-be-known-as-the-constellation-class/
https://news.usni.org/2020/10/07/secnav-braithwaite-names-first-ffgx-uss-constellation
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Added on 23 Nov 2020: The engineering and planning of the current Frigate design is lacking as a future combat ship in the US Navy. The believe the costs will balloon to the degree that it will equal the costs of the current Arliegh Burke Class destroyers. Since the Burkes have more fire power. I believe that the new frigate should not be built or bought until modern naval warfare thinking within the US Navy actually exists and the old cold war thinking dies.
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Added on 12 Jan 2021:
https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/surface-navy-association/2021/01/11/heres-the-us-navys-plan-to-stop-its-string-of-shipbuilding-failures/
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Even a lowly janitor figured this out a long time ago. Which is why I say stop build on the LCS, Ford, Frigate and any other Destroyer, Cruiser, Corvette and Missile Boats in the planning. You have to do the math first. You have to start counting missile cells just like what was once done in the days of sails by counting guns. You have to know what is already out there. You have to know what the enemy has and what their capabilities are and will be. You already know better than anyone.
If you want to lead then every class of warship and boat must be seen as the best of the best. Period. If you build a LCS with extremely minimal guns and missiles. Then expect the world to laugh and they have. If you build a next generation Destroyer and you can't pay for the bullets of your main gun as the world laughs. Then the world watches as you put a lot of RADAR reflective gear on the outside of your warship. The world has already laughed at you. Then the embarrassment of the Ford Class. If one doesn't work then build many more that probably won't work either. Let's not forget the F35 that cannot maintain maximum speed for more than 45 seconds without destroying itself and yet you still make them. How many defects does the F35 still have to this day? 871 flaws in the F35 as reported the other day. The LCS is a train wreck and yet you still make them. Why? Why continue to build failures.
The new Israeli Sa'ar 6 appears to be the standard in missile capability. The Russian Frigate appears to be another standard. The Chinese Destroyers which have been called Cruisers is yet another metric to be considered. These three ships classes have clearly defined what the future holds in Naval warfare. If you want to be leaders then lead. Do not build a Frigate which is outgunned by a Corvette. Do not build a corvette class which is out gunned by a missile boat and can be easily destroyed by a missile having been launched a thousand miles away without any ability to see the origin or even be able to retaliate.
The VLS Missile Cells must evolve, become more capable and become smarter. The number of missile cells per ship class has risen greatly and so should any and every American warship of every class. The Sa'ar 6 Corvette has 68 Missile cells. A single missile cells should be in place and all of the existing US LCS Corvettes must have at least 68 VLS missile cells on them. The next generation Frigate must have in excess of 72 VLS Missile Cells, Plus 2 Phalanx and a lot of remote mounted guns. The next generation Destroyer must have in excess 150 VLS Missile Cells. The Next generation Cruiser must have in excess 300 VLS Missile cells. Sure smile and laugh. In the last twenty years the world has advanced and evolved at least twice. While the US Navy remained in their victorious cold war state of mind. I forgot another thing. All bodies must remain inside the ship.
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Added on 16 Jan 2021
https://news.usni.org/2021/01/15/navy-first-constellation-frigate-will-start-fabrication-this-year-as-shipyard-expands
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The US Navy says they want to put an end to the problems they are having with the Ford's, LCS, Zumwalt's and F35. The math behind the Frigates do not add up. The ship seems to be too short and too narrow for any kind of future modernization. You can only add another 500 tons to the hull?. Seems insignificant for any meaningful future modernization. The available firepower is insignificant as many Corvettes already in service with other navies have more firepower and capability. This new Frigate must more than double the physical presence of the Mark 41 VLS Missile Cells. The new Frigate must also add a lot remote operated guns. Physically bigger engines. Physically bigger gensets. This current iteration of the next generation frigate from the US Navy is evidence of stagnant cold war thinking.
Need to build the needed hull which will be required for future proofing. A hull which will contain everything you want and will want. Then only add the stuff you can afford right now. Then every few years find funding for more capability to be added to every hull. You also need to build the hull with availability for 96 Mark 41 VLS Missile Cells. If you can only afford 32 VLS then have 32 VLS. The engineered hull is crucial. You have to get this one component right and correct first. If you do not. Then you may end up with another LCS or F35 on your hands. The F35 with such a critical flaw or many that they cannot be fixed. Oh Yea, Stop build on the F35, LCS and Ford's right now. Put everyone who made decisions on those three programs alone in jail until the issues are fixed.
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https://news.usni.org/2021/02/15/report-to-congress-on-constellation-class-frigate-program-ffg-62-2
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/R44972.pdf
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My Comment on USNI News:
From Page 22 in the PDF: The VLS count must rise from 32 to 72 and include the VLS counts on a towed/autonomous LUSV. The reason for such a large number of VLS now is that VLS count evolution has risen just in the last few years. To the point that the new Israeli Sa'ar 6 Corvette has two different VLS Cells one being 32 Barak-8 and the other 40 for C-Dome. That is 72 VLS missile cells on a Corvette and Plus an additional 16 Gabriel missiles. According to the math of ships. This new Israeli Corvette should be the starting point on VLS missile counts. A truly new next generation Frigate should have more than double of the capability of a Corvette.
The Russian New Project 22350 Frigates will have 16 VLS, 24 VLS and 32 REDUT VLS.
The new Chinese Frigate Type 54A has 32 VLS but an awful lot of other weapons. Which would make the new American frigate slightly less than comparable or threatened.
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Added on 02 Oct 2021: Propaganda News: The drive seems to have the best writer for these selections and not just copy and paste.
Initially, I was all gung ho in the American next generation ship class. But, as you read. This ship is the same as any other ship except for length, width and a few other changes. So this entire class is not a next generation. The Constellation class is just an established hull form which can be modified over time. But, the one thing that I do not like about the ship is the lack of initial modernized firepower. To the degree that the new Israeli Corvette can go toe to toe with this so called new next generation Frigate from the USA. This new Frigate also seems less than the Russian and Chinese versions. So what happened to the it takes two or more warships to even consider going up against a Constellation?
Those who have designed what goes into this Frigate hull are not forward thinking. Removing the front sonar while adding a drag sonar is an indication that the two systems have not been combined in order to make location and identification of any sub surface object exactly known. The two systems should mutually work together.
A second Mark 41 VLS of 32 should have been added.
Can the flight deck contain a F35?
More remote gun stations should have been added. Because, to be forward thinking you will need to contend with the hundreds of drones coming at each warship in the future. The classified drone technology left behind in Afghanistan is now in the hands of our future enemies. The classified and encrypted communications gear of all kinds left behind. How much other classified material and content was left behind? Which is now all in the hands of our future enemies. Has the new GPS systems been compromised?
For instance, How does North Korea build the rockets that they do, the nuclear weapons that they do and now hypersonic missiles??? Really!!!! Then the news media positively reports on this as something which is amazing. Somebody is helping them. Russia and China both.
And the scrapping sale of old aircraft carriers and other warships should be stopped. Those ships should be offered to our friends so that they can fit them out with their own technologies and capabilities. Like Japan, Australia, New Zealand and Israel. This won't happen with Israel now that Americas elected officials hate Israel. In which the American people will suffer for in regards to relational curses from God. This needs to be done right now instead of scrapping. The gifting or the selling of to be scrapped old warships should also save many millions of dollars(assumption).
If you truly want a 355 ship Navy, Then you have to stop the scrapping process until 355 is achieved and then you can start gifting those old ships to actual friendly nations. Yes, I know costs can or will be prohibitive. But, The enemies which are rising up against the USA will out number the USA with numerical superiority and very peer weapons capabilities. So your screwed and it doesn't matter about the acoustics.
But, then again, You have to consider the delusional and political insanity of Australia and Canada. Are and will the Canadians become the new enemies of the USA? As they flirt with the unrealized nature of totalitarianism. or am I getting a little paranoid? Probably, so. But, nations in human history have flipped and have stabbed their former best friends in the back without ever mentioning "Oh, and by the way were enemies now".
The things in which I've written about warships should be seriously considered. Especially the addition of remoted and computer operated gun mounts on all classes of warships. While drones may not ever sink any warship class. The use of drones will be used as weapons of attrition to the degree that your ships will no longer be able to see, hear or communicate.
End of rant.
The development of anti-drone/anti-ship guns with their own dedicated RADAR/Sensor packages should be developed and these new data sets should be easily seen and combined with other sensory data sets. These anti-drone guns should be numerous and work similar to the CIWS Phalanx gun system. These should use typical ammo in the 7.62 and the 5.56 NATO. These must surround the ship or each ship. These should be used until a RF DEW or LASER weapon can be developed which can instantly destroy drones instantly at ranges beyond 250 meters through 900 meters. The two numbers represent two layers of drone/ship defense. If you keep the guns and are able to develop an actual working RF DEW or LASER weapon which can instantly destroy all technologies at a distance greater than 900 meters. Then you will have three working layers of drone defense per ship. Why is this such a threat? Because drone will be used to deplete your weapons stores first. Then when your weapons stores are depleted or your trying to reload your missiles. What is your tactical word for "Incoming" and a lot of them!. End of battle for you. If you care for your men/women of honor and respect. If you car about your service with pride and dedication. You will follow thorough on my words. Because, I do not want you to lose or face the ultimate embarrassment when your entire battle group is captured. Yes, I have seen that blood bath as you run out of bullets. I have seen the blood flowing off of your decks. I have seen the blood pumped out of your ships. I have seen the news stories about captured American ships in which an American Aircraft Carrier flies a new Chinese flag.
I personally believe that if some idiot nation wants to bring their ships to be up close and personal. Then they should encounter a wall of armor piercing lead. Even though it will most likely be ineffective against the ship. The sensors and RADAR systems are not protected. If the command deck still uses glass to see out of. Then make it difficult to see out of. The enemy humans outside of their ships will also die. No, I did not forget about any remote operated and computer controlled mark 19 automatic grenade launchers. With an effective range of 2000 meters. So think about other larger calibers.
All of these plug and play gun systems, Self identify into the system and also uses all system data sets to properly aim at any target. So while you may have a dozen new gun mounts on each side of your ship. You can also appear to be peaceful, politically nice and friendly, as those guns are safely stowed away. That is until those pleasant thoughts end. Then your crew can mount each gun type and allow the computerized alignment process to begin.
The number of Frigates to be built is to low. The US Navy will need at least 10 Frigates, 8 Destroyers and 5 Cruisers in the Caribbean, central and South American regions of the Atlantic Ocean, Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean Sea. As these emerging threats potentially rise with the involvement of both Russia and China in those regions.
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https://news.usni.org/2021/09/28/report-to-congress-on-constellation-class-frigate-program-ffg-62-7
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/facts-are-us%C2%A0navys%C2%A0new-constellation-class-frigate-194634
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42553/new-diagram-details-how-the-navys-frigate-will-differ-from-its-italian-parents-design
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https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/R43543.pdf
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Added on 02 Nov 2021:
Well, more bad news for the new Constitution Class Frigates. They're not even in the water and they each will woefully be outranged and out gunned by the new Russian frigates. If they each run out of missiles the Russian Frigates can out range by more than twice the distance with their 130mm gun. I just read the wonderful story and got caught up in the Mk110 57mm hype and then I thought I remembered something about the new Russian Frigates. Yea, they have a bigger and more capable gun system and they can outrange the new American Frigate which has not been built. The people in the Pentagon just screwed this ship class up. Just like they did with the F35, No new MBT replacement, No Destroyer or Cruiser replacements, LCS and Fords. The Navies own dry docks have not been modernized in almost 50 years. Plus, a lot of other bad things that has just slipped my mind at this time.
Will America's new Constitution Class Frigate even be ranked in the top 5 or top 10 in the world? Especially when there are Corvettes which seem to have more firepower and more capability. We will see. But, I think the Russian Frigate will remain Number 1 in the world as it can easily out gun Americas paper tiger of a warship.
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Added on 01 Feb 2022:
I woke up thinking about the Frigate class. I'm still not happy about this. But, anyway. I still think the new Frigate class should have enough of a garage facility to house an F35 or what comes after the F35. Which mean that every class of warship should also be able to house one, two or more F35's or what comes after. As well as helicopters in whatever kind of organization.
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Added on 27 June 2022: War is once again looming. Enemy warships encircle Japan. Belarus to become a nuclear state. Putin threatens London with a nuclear strike. Ukraine will fall soon. The US send MLRS to Ukraine and continues to pour in money in which will have no effect. Russia now has an excuse to attack the USA because of American continual involvement with Ukraine.
So, now is the time to double(64) the Mk41 VLS Missile cells before the critical deign review is finalized. This must be done now. The addition of remote gun stations must be added as well. Just like in the days of sail when guns were counted. So to today, VLS missile cells are counted. You cannot go into any war stance with a lack of guns and bullets. You cannot take a minimalist approach in this one thing.
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Added on 10 July 2022: The LCS Line is worse than you think and has been for years and years.
https://youtu.be/beNUTnJjPNI
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Added on 18 July 2022:
It is a good read. With the threats which are posed by Russia, China, Iran, NK, and their allies in Central and South American. The procurement rate should be increased to include more builders. The US Navy will retire the LCS's. In doing so should cause the US Navy to build 30 more Frigates. Also, The US Ship builders could build for other nations as well. Assuming ship building capacity is increased. They still have to more than double the VLS missile counts.
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https://news.usni.org/2022/07/15/report-to-congress-on-constellation-class-frigate-program-ffg-62-11
Bring coffee and comfy chair time. 33 page PDF warning:
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22088174/navy-constellation-ffg-62-class-frigate-program-background-and-issues-for-congress-july-15-2022.pdf
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Added on 26 Dec 2022:
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/R44972.pdf
https://www.defenseadvancement.com/news/u-s-navys-constellation-class-ffg-62-frigate-to-be-powered-by-state-of-the-art-gas-turbine/
https://www.marinelink.com/news/us-navy-building-architecture-framework-501632
https://news.usni.org/2022/12/06/compromise-857b-defense-policy-bill-authorizes-11-battle-force-ships-25m-for-nuclear-cruise-missile-research
https://www.history.navy.mil/browse-by-topic/ships/original-frigates/frigate-constellation.html
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/11/every-next-gen-navy-ship-will-defend-against-ballistic-missiles-and-other-threats-with-the-same-radar-the-spy-6/
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Added on 27 March 2023:
https://news.usni.org/2022/12/27/report-to-congress-on-constellation-class-frigate-program-ffg-62-12
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23556962/navy-constellation-ffg-62-class-frigate-program-background-and-issues-for-congress-dec-21-2022.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constellation_(FFG-62)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Congress_(FFG-63)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Chesapeake_(FFG-64)
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Added on 30 March 2023:
https://news.usni.org/2023/03/28/report-to-congress-on-constellation-class-frigate-program-ffg-62-13
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23728331/navy-constellation-ffg-62-class-frigate-program-background-and-issues-for-congress-march-27-2023.pdf
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Added on 18 Jan 2024: Still confusion among the learned writing warriors.
The evolution of my writing is apparent as nothing is deleted unless some people advise me to delete.
The problems with The US Navy compounds every year. Stupid decisions at all official management levels
is even apparent down to civilian janitors like myself. The point here in this wisdom is this at one time guns
shot one bullet or ball at a time. Not we have guns which fire many thousands of rounds per minute. It is
destructively amazing. So to are we in the age of missiles. The capability to launch many thousands of
missiles at once at one singular target will happen and in many ways already has. The expense of each missile
is still very prohibitive while bullets are still cheap. Defensive and offensive DEW's seem to still be a pipe dream.
So what must be done as the US Navy is now in second place? How about a do over as harsh as a suggestion as that may seem it is still valid. All the way from docks to surface to subsurface ships. The US Navy is becoming incapable of fighting in any real conflict with a peer adversary. Especially, when the US Navy has had ships and boats in for repairs and service for about 8 years now. While the idiocy of Littoral and a 600 ship number are still at the forefront. I tell you that doesn't matter if you cannot fix any damaged ship or boat in a timely manner. Then what happens when your aircraft carrier battle group encounter 1,000, 5,000 or 10,000 incoming missiles which are followed behind by manned planes. Or what happens when an enemy is able to mature a DEW system and turns your warships into metallic objects in a microwave oven.
Solutions: Build new and efficient US Navy manufacturing facilities while at the same time repairing old facilities from the most strategically important to least. Add new remote and automatic anti drone systems by the many per side of each ship. The Pentagon must quietly acknowledge the change in every class of warship to the next size larger. The pentagon must also acknowledge the more than doubling of VLS missile cells per class of warship. This must happen right now. You can read my other writings but I use a Israeli Sa'ar 6 Corvette as a base line. The Sa'ar 6 is also full of old thinking design flaws. The US Navy is no longer a leader in any degree of war fighting even though the USA operates 20 plus aircraft carriers. I did read an admiral and he was right when he said the porcupines of old will reemerge in new modern day designs(paraphrase memory). The problem is also in what has not been reported. Which is the lack of a moral/honor compass in the leadership of the US Military from the top down.
End Result: The ultimate in embarrassment is this. The capture of a fleet of capitol ships or two and then those ships repurposed and used against us. I'm trying to save lives. Heed my words. Even if it means a tactical contraction in order to reinforce infrastructure. The idea of classified materials and conceptualized information must be upheld to the highest degree that not even a politician can get out of execution for revealing or selling anything classified even if he or she is the President.
Money: There is a point of when you have to spend money you just have to start cutting checks. Sucks to be you but in a way it sucks to be us when and if a hot war breaks out and American civilians are killed because of many decades of corruption. Those who wear the uniform on those terrible days will be to blame as they will have to do more than anyone else before them. Much like in the days of world war when I had relative(s) who fought the entire duration of WWII before American involvement. So to will it be in those days.
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https://defenseopinion.com/before-larger-or-more-lethal-the-u-s-navy-first-needs-a-maritime-strategy/516/
https://www.marineinsight.com/shipping-news/chinas-navy-is-now-the-largest-in-the-world-after-overtaking-u-s/
(Membership Required): https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/01/04/navy-houthis-ships-shipyards-sailors/
https://themessenger.com/opinion/us-navy-expansion-modernize-surface-fleet-deployments-stress-american-strategy
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Added on 02 Feb 2024: One should always make as close to equal comparisons to a leading smaller class warship like the Corvette Sa'ar 6 from Israel and the next size larger class warships like the American Destroyer class to assume offensive and defensive capabilities. Like I've written in these writings. The US Navy designers are stuck in the cold war era and have not ascertained how each class of warship sizes seems to get larger over time. In this modern era it seems that the American Navy Constellation class Frigates is comparable to the modern day Corvette Sa'ar 6. While the Burke Destroyers could be considered modern day Frigates. So the USA is already building frigates under the classification of modernized cold war era Destroyers.
The really bad part with being stuck in your old cold war arse thinking is that when the enemy whoever they may be becomes able to fire many hundreds or thousands of drones and missiles at any warship. Your warship may only be damaged to the point of becoming captured and at best sunk. Which is worse captured or sunk? as you watch your crews tortured and executed all over the internet, forever. It looks like someone has been reading my writings all the way back to 2020.
So this does bring to the forefront of what must be done with the Ticonderoga Cruisers? They each must be modernized for extended service life. According to Wikipedia 13 Ticonderoga's are still in active service while 14 have been retired. That will be a loss of almost 3,294 VLS Missile cell capability. That is a very large negative hit in total VLS missile cell capability of the US Navy. But how to do that when ship yards are at maximum capacities, are not being properly maintained, quality employees not found or trained. New remote operated/automatic gun mounts must be put into place for cheap to shoot drone defense. The USA cannot lose any VLS missile counts. VLS Missile cell counts is the modern day gun counts in the days of sail. Yes, I still in the boat of stop build on all LCS and Constellation Class Frigates. The new modern day Frigates are the Burkes.
Read more of my Naval writings. Please be mindful of my own learning curve. I'm just a janitor.
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https://news.yahoo.com/does-constellation-class-frigate-enough-204925567.html
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Added on 30 May 2024: Frigate News: Construction Halted: Already Problems for a severely inferior warship. This is a warship that everyone/I could love and then the brass ruined it, knew it and then tried to fix it only to ruin it more. Janitorial summery. Go and read the below evidence.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/navys-22b-frigates-delayed-due-to-design-flaws-says-report-2024-5
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/05/gao-blames-new-frigates-delay-on-navy-tampering-with-design-botched-metrics/
https://news.usni.org/2024/05/29/constellation-frigate-unplanned-weight-growth-could-limit-service-life-says-gao
https://www.naval-technology.com/news/gao-uss-constellation-frigate-construction-at-a-standstill/
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Added on 12 June 2024: Oh. the Frigate that could have been. Comparisons being made with the worst class of warships, the LCS's. In which they are still being built. Go and read the link and study the picture. Then realize they have started building this Frigate without actually knowing if it is actually gonna work in the computer first. It's awful. But, no matter the new American frigate will be less powerful than actual modern day Corvettes like the Sa'ar 6 for Israel. Because of the new concerns of becoming overweight. It will be slow and low in the water.
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https://www.naval-technology.com/features/could-us-navys-constellation-class-frigates-share-littoral-combat-ship-fate/?cf-view
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Added on 17 August 2024: News.
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/R44972.pdf
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/navy%E2%80%99s-new%C2%A0constellation-class-nightmare-now-unfolding-211336
https://www.realcleardefense.com/2024/07/27/constellation-class_frigate_the_us_navys_next_self-created_disaster_1047572.html
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Added on 13 Nov 2024: News Story in regard to President Elect Trump:
https://defenseopinion.com/trump-administration-must-reform-how-u-s-navy-designs-builds-warships/768/
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Added on 27 Nov 2024:
https://news.usni.org/2024/11/26/report-to-congress-on-navy-constellation-class-frigate-program
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